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MGL OBJECTION!


Number of posts: 840 Age: 24 Location: Always fight with honor Registration date: 2007-10-13
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 | Subject: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:08 pm | |
| Yesterday, hackers from 4chan's /b/ message board broke into Sarah Palin's Yahoo email account, which she used for government purposes. Arguably, this is information that would have come out anyway, since there's been an open records act request since effin' June, which is itself related to the trooper firing fiasco (I refuse to use the -gate suffix for every scandal that comes along  ). On the other hand, it's an invasion of privacy, and although I don't think the US has any laws against hacking someone's email or anything, it's an invasion of privacy basically the online version of burglary. Cyber-burglary, if you will. This basically raises the question: Do the ends justify the means? _________________ 
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r1nn OBJECTION!


Number of posts: 1698 Location: U.S.A. Registration date: 2007-10-12
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 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:12 am | |
| w.t.f.  This is horrible. God I hate Anonymous. I don't care if there's an act that approves it (btw, the link doesn't work), this just isn't right. Mail of any kind, electronically or snail mail, are mailed to that specific person for a reason. It's private personal stuff and it should stay that way. _________________ r1nn's current awesome art progress: I've been pretty busy because of school, so I don't have anything from September - now up. so wait until later, and check out these two links. |
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Original Sin Grammar Police


Number of posts: 225 Age: 28 Location: Fighting the long defeat Registration date: 2008-01-31
 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:49 am | |
| I wanted to say that I agree wholeheartedly about the "-gate" thing. It makes no sense at all. The Watergate scandal wasn't a scandal about water. Anyway, I'm continually annoyed at /b/tards--technically savvy or not--co-opting the Anonymous name (if that's not a contradiction) for every bullshit thing they come up with. It's perhaps understandable, although perhaps not, that the mainstream media assumes it must be the same people every time. EDIT: Okay, I skimmed the article too quickly. However, I am bemused by Palin's decision to use such an insecure e-mail account for information she wanted to keep hidden. _________________ "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." -- Rogers, Kung Fu Monkey
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Otaku Son Snake


Number of posts: 409 Age: 101 Registration date: 2007-10-13
 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:52 am | |
| I heard about this on the TV. I remember my old CS131 professor saying, "Always expect everything private to have the potential to become public." This being said about e-mails. My question is: what the blazes does everyone have against the woman? Why are they hacking her Yahoo! e-mail? What does it matter if she uses Yahoo! for government e-mails (as John McCain defend her, she was using it for minor e-mails with which she didn't want to clog the tubes of important government business; not that it should matter if she'd use personal e-mail for important stuff)? What are they hoping to achieve? As a Troll of Trolls who wrote the Guide on Trolling and publicly claimed to be the asshat who trolled the Dominic Deegan forum, I am very annoyed by this bullshittery. The good troll does his job for a reason, and I can't figure any reason why these /b/astards are attacking her. I guess they want to try to break her spirit or something. "Oh, look! It's just another woman! Another dumb ho! Let's make her cry! Hae, hae!" I can't wait to see the Photoshop nudes of her start popping up. Oh, by the way; they said it on the news, but I don't know if it's in that link. Anyway, the dumb ass who took those Print Screenshots was a retard and forgot to filter out the tabs at the top of the window, so there was all sorts of evidence left behind. |
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MGL OBJECTION!


Number of posts: 840 Age: 24 Location: Always fight with honor Registration date: 2007-10-13
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 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:26 am | |
| | Otaku Son wrote: | | My question is: what the blazes does everyone have against the woman? |
There are a lot of things to hold against her. Corruption regarding earmarks, cronyism, lying about said earmarks and cronyism, having less experience than even Obama, being chosen as running mate in a desperate attempt at a voter grab as if to say, "Hey Hillary voters, you voted for that person with a vagina, so won't you want to vote for this person with a vagina?"
| Quote: | | Why are they hacking her Yahoo! e-mail? |
I can't claim to speak for /b/, but I'm guessing it's because she was resisting the open records request.
| Quote: | | What does it matter if she uses Yahoo! for government e-mails (as John McCain defend her, she was using it for minor e-mails with which she didn't want to clog the tubes of important government business; not that it should matter if she'd use personal e-mail for important stuff)? |
The thing is, she has a government email for government business, which is relatively more secure than Yahoo's email service. I've read speculation that she used the Yahoo account because it was away to avoid the whole open records and government transparency thing.
| Quote: | | What are they hoping to achieve? |
Maybe they want to play cyber Robin Hood or something?
I figure it's some liberal jerk deciding that since she wasn't complying with the ethics investigation, he'd make her comply. I don't think it's much better than "Hey, make the dumb ho cry," but hey, I don't believe the ends justify the means.
| Quote: | | I can't wait to see the Photoshop nudes of her start popping up. |
There's already a photoshop of her in a bikini holding an assault rifle, so yeah._________________ 
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Dicky Galoot

Number of posts: 194 Registration date: 2007-11-04
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 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:38 pm | |
| | MGL wrote: | | Do the ends justify the means? |
Dunno. I think if there had been serious legal repercussions for what Palin had been doing, and there was clear proof of what she was doing without anyone taking action, then maybe. From what I understand from that article, though, Palin was using a loophole to make things more convenient and avoid accountability. Unethical and highly stupid, yes, but not strictly illegal, or so I gathered. It while it does seem that she was conducting some government business with the account, I doubt any "state-secrets" esque information was contained in the e-mails, or I'm sure the hackers would have included such proof of Palin's idiocy. In the end, the unethical/illegal breach of her privacy only brought to light another unethical practice, and I really can't decide whether it was justified.
As to the posting of the personal photos, I believe Palin opened the door herself to such exposure when she decided to mix her personal affairs with public government affairs, and the question of ethics on that particular point becomes moot, in my view. |
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Otaku Son Snake


Number of posts: 409 Age: 101 Registration date: 2007-10-13
 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:22 am | |
| | MGL wrote: | | Quote: | | What are they hoping to achieve? |
Maybe they want to play cyber Robin Hood or something? | In that case, shouldn't they be hacking her PayPal account and giving her funds to the poor?
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| Quote: | | I can't wait to see the Photoshop nudes of her start popping up. |
There's already a photoshop of her in a bikini holding an assault rifle, so yeah. | As awesome as that might sound, I still prefer nudes. |
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Obsidian_Stray Grammar Police


Number of posts: 1789 Age: 24 Location: Here. Registration date: 2007-10-12
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 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:41 am | |
| While I wouldn't justify this kind of thing from a legal standpoint, I think it's pretty kickass from a street justice standpoint. |
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Kamineko Forum Rebel


Number of posts: 1109 Age: 24 Location: somewhere, what's it matter? Registration date: 2007-10-13
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 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:44 am | |
| just to be clear, they didn't so much hack it as guess her secret password. _________________ | Quote: | | The world is a mess and I just need to... rule it. |
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Otaku Son Snake


Number of posts: 409 Age: 101 Registration date: 2007-10-13
 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:42 pm | |
| I get the feeling someone is deleting my posts around here... |
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Dr.Strafe Strip Slayer


Number of posts: 601 Location: Welcome to 1984 Registration date: 2007-10-15
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 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:20 pm | |
| If I were in public office, I think I'd use something a bit more secure than Yahoo. _________________ A man chooses. A slave obeys.
Enjoy your victory while you can. Don't complain to me when it all falls apart.
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Otaku Son Snake


Number of posts: 409 Age: 101 Registration date: 2007-10-13
 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:56 pm | |
| And just exactly what's so insecure about Yahoo? I've been using the same name and same password for the last ten years, and no one's gotten in, yet. Hell, I even have a password so easy, even a baby could figure it out. Anyway, Kamineko, my post originally asked, "zOMFG SOURCE LOLZ! No, really, because on the TV, they said the hackers used some kind of third-party site to hack her account via legal loopholes concerning hacking." |
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Dr.Strafe Strip Slayer


Number of posts: 601 Location: Welcome to 1984 Registration date: 2007-10-15
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 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:03 pm | |
| | Otaku Son wrote: | | And just exactly what's so insecure about Yahoo? I've been using the same name and same password for the last ten years, and no one's gotten in, yet. Hell, I even have a password so easy, even a baby could figure it out. |
You are just a civilian on the internet. Palin is vying for the Vice Presidency. Her mistake was using something like Yahoo for Government purposes. (as well as the password issue.)
Regardless, I just see this as another attempt to sabotage Palin and McCain. _________________ A man chooses. A slave obeys.
Enjoy your victory while you can. Don't complain to me when it all falls apart.
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Otaku Son Snake


Number of posts: 409 Age: 101 Registration date: 2007-10-13
 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:35 pm | |
| Whatever, I'll still vote for McCain, if only because is means more fake nudes of his VP flooding the Internet once they're in office. |
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Dr.Strafe Strip Slayer


Number of posts: 601 Location: Welcome to 1984 Registration date: 2007-10-15
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 | Subject: Re: FW: RE: RE: RE: FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: HACKING - VERY IMPORTANT Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:43 pm | |
| | Otaku Son wrote: | | Whatever, I'll still vote for McCain, if only because is means more fake nudes of his VP flooding the Internet once they're in office. |
Heh. _________________ A man chooses. A slave obeys.
Enjoy your victory while you can. Don't complain to me when it all falls apart.
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